Why I Defend R13

**pvfan** · December 29th, 2008, 11:49 PM

I don't reply to him much, I do aggravate him from time to time but I do think it's ridiculous how some on here treat him. It's like anywhere else there is a double standard, and I understand that I'm probably on the good side of that double standard at this point but R13 and those who support him are not the same as everyone else. Just ignore the kid for the most part and he'll be fine. He's a better man than I am, if I got talked to on here like he does I would've had personal conversations with some of you all, (I have previously). It's worse than high school girls on here sometimes.

**imported_trumpet1988** · December 30th, 2008, 12:03 AM

Personally, R13 isn't my most favorite poster. Far from it. He even admits that he brings some of it on himself. He doesn't listen to reason very often, but then again neither do a lot of other people on this board. Sometimes other people just like to ruffle his feathers.

He's not my favorite poster but he does have just as much right as anybody else to post here.

And Big, though my language isn't always the greatest, this is a public forum and just like any other public forum they've got rules about it. If you have to use profanity every other word in public to get your point across then those in charge have every right to chew you out for it or censor you.

Actually, I am trying to cut back a lot on saying some words as simple as "sh**," "b*tch," or "damn."

**pvfan** · December 30th, 2008, 12:29 AM

You know something, formermemberwhowedontdiscussanymore was right, this board is divided in a bunch of different cliques. The older I get the nicer I try to be to people from everywhere, I love sports and knowing people from everywhere allows me to get more enjoyment out of my hobby through information. Were all the same, Shooter is conservative as hell and I think to much so he thinks I'm to liberal but you put us at a PV Basketball game and we can talk for days. The same can be said about all of us, I've met most of the people who can post here and there all good people, respect each other and their views. Go to a basketball game in Wise County, and for the most part both boys and girls from different towns will sit converse and be friendly with each other even though they are so called rivals. Maybe we adults could learn something from the children.

**Shooter** · December 30th, 2008, 12:39 AM

Well said. When I talk politics on here, I don't take any of it to heart. I repect everyones views, and know, it in no way makes them a bad person. In fact, if people didn't have differing views, this would be a very boring world. For every view we have different, i'd bet you have the same amount of things in common.
Like PVFAN said, I lean way conservative, and I think he is more in the middle leaning slightly left. But when you get past politics, we both have a passion for sports, and gambling, haha.
Can't we all just get along WHILE we argue politics (where most of the bickering begins)? Its a discussion, NOT a war.
I think once all the Obama stuff calms down, so will things on the board.

**duckmeat** · December 30th, 2008, 03:26 AM

well said Biggin about R13. We have alot of the same views, but I don't defend everything he says or even does. I like the guy, I'll be honest. The way he is treated is all that bothers me, but that was already discussed in this thread.

**duckmeat** · December 30th, 2008, 03:41 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PVFAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You know something, formermemberwhowedontdiscussanymore was right </div></div>

Probably won't get an answer but I really am curious. I see this guy's name on here all the time and people talking about him. I've held off on askign, but what did he do. Must have been a monumental meltdown or something. Wow. His name is even filtered. Anybody care to fill me in? Yeah, I know - I'm nosey.

**imported_ndn10** · December 30th, 2008, 03:56 AM

you missed out is all i can say. lol

the forum used to be like a soap opera when he was on here.

**duckmeat** · December 30th, 2008, 04:09 AM

Soap opera part hasn't changed much has it?

I just realized I probably shouldn't have asked that, as his name is like it is for a reason. But with everyone bringing it up lately, I couldn't help myself.

**imported_ndn10** · December 30th, 2008, 04:13 AM

i remember a time when the forum was crazy. back when Jim was the admin... i miss those days. It seemed like there was a big argument somewhere on the forum everyday and it usually ended up with someone gettin a one day ban to cool off.

Does anyone remember "the family"? lol good times good times